Charts – Where You Fall on the Alpha / Beta Scale
Most of us understand the basic, black-and-white differences between an Alpha Male and a beta male. Problems with these definitions arise when we get into the issue of degree. I’ve talked before about men who are “cool betas” or “confident betas” as well as “extreme betas.” Many commenters have pointed out that there are degrees of Alpha as well. I talk about Alpha 1.0 and 2.0 (described here), but some of you have self-identified as Alpha 1.5, i.e. a slightly more relaxed version of a 1.0, or a 1.0 who is on his way to 2.0 but hasn’t quite arrived there yet.
Today I will visually show you where all these kinds of men lie on a scale between beta, Alpha 1.0, and Alpha 2.0.
As I describe in detail in my book, the three types of men are determined primarily by two traits, that of confidence (being self-assured in your own abilities) and outcome independence (not giving a shit, at all, regarding the outcome of any individualized scenario; read this for more detail). There are many other aspects and requirements of living an Alpha 2.0 life, but in terms of the type of man you are internally, confidence and OI are the primary factors.
The beta male is neither confident or outcome independent. He’s timid, fearful, and really cares greatly about all of the details of his life.
The Alpha Male 1.0 is confident, but not outcome independent. He’s strong, mentally (and perhaps physically) tough, but his ego is wedded to the outcome of what other people say or do. Unlike the beta, he lives a generally good life, but also experiences at least semi-regular conflict and problems.
The Alpha Male 2.0 is confident and outcome independent. He’s strong, mentally (and perhaps physically) tough, and absolutely does not give a shit about what anyone does; he’s too busy getting laid, working on his Mission, and having a great time.
So far so good. The problem is that both confidence and outcome independence are not binary, on-or-off things. You can be unconfident, somewhat confident, or extremely confident. You can be very outcome dependent, somewhat outcome dependent, or totally outcome independent.
Therefore, both confidence and outcome independence can be viewed as a scale, from zero to extreme. With this in mind, the overall chart looks like this:
Betas are where both confidence and outcome independence are low. Alpha 1.0’s live where confidence is high, but outcome independence is low. Alpha 2.0’s exist in that much smaller area where both confidence and outcome independence are at extreme levels.
What if you’re outcome independent, but not confident? That’s impossible. Confidence does not require outcome independence, but outcome independence cannot exist without a degree of confidence. Therefore, there’s a sort of no man’s land where OI is high, but confidence is low; there is no such human.
Now that you know how the three zones work, here are some examples of where certain types of men place on this chart.
The man with near-zero confidence or OI is a total and complete pussy, in the far lower left of the beta zone. However, a beta with more confidence than most other betas is on the high end of that zone, the “confident beta.” He’s still a beta, no question about it, but he’s a more charismatic version. The guy with off the chart confidence, but zero OI is usually a total asshole, and he lives in the far upper left corner, well into the Alpha 1.0 zone. This is the old school Alpha who is supremely confident, does and says all kinds of blunt shit, but has a big temper and gets extremely angry if anyone ever does or says anything he doesn’t like. Men who are moving towards the Alpha 2.0 zone, but aren’t quite there yet, are at various spots depending on where they started their journey.
Now let’s take a look at where various manosphere groups place on this chart.
Note that these are just generalities. Yes, yes, I know there are exceptions to every rule, and I will ignore comments that attempt to point out these unusual exceptions.
Pick-up artists, a group I know very well, tend to be moderate to low-end Alpha 1.0’s or high-end betas. Men like Ross Jefferies are Alpha 1.0’s. Men like David DeAngelo (Eben Pagan) are low-end Alpha 1.0’s. Guys like Mystery and Neil Strauss were very high-end betas. And so on.
Angry MGTOW’s who hate women tend to be mid-range betas. They have just enough confidence to not be total pussies, but that’s about it. Sex-positive MGTOW’s (like myself) are often well into the Alpha 2.0 zone, but often live in the 1.0 zone as well.
MRA guys are the most outcome dependent group of all, and tend to hug the left side of the chart where outcome dependence is strongest. They seek to change society and are very angry that society is not the way they wish it to be. Like most politically-minded people, their OI is extremely low, if not completely non existent.
Speaking of politics, it might be helpful to show you where the big political ideologies fall on this chart.
As you can see, both left-wingers and right-wingers are highly outcome dependent, viewing politics and activism as a means to change society to their wishes. Very non-OI. Both hug the outcome dependent part of the scale, though left-wingers tend to hug it a little harder than the right. This is one of the reasons why the left won the culture war… they tend to be more collectivist than the right and want these changes a little more badly. The right tends to appeal to more masculine Alpha types (though yes, there are exceptions) and the left tends to appeal to more feminine, beta types (though yes, there are exceptions).
Moderates and centrists are a little more beta, but are much less outcome dependent than their hardcore right-wing or left-wing brothers.
Libertarians tend to be low Alphas (though yes, there are exceptions), and some even venture into the Alpha 2.0 zone, since much of Alpha 2.0 philosophy tends to be an outgrowth of libertarian concepts.
To finally give you a fuller picture of where men place on this chart, and possibly where you place, here are some examples of where some celebrities fall on this chart.
Many of these celebrities I’ve discussed in detail in my blogs already, as examples of beta, Alpha 1.0, or 2.0 behaviors. One I’ll point out here is Kevin Smith, who I think is the epitome of a “confident beta.” The guy is a total beta, highly emotional, cries all the time, is very self conscious, has his wife rule his life, allows himself to be bullied by stronger personalities, and very clearly has some severe self-esteem issues. However, for a beta, he’s extremely confident, able to stand in front of a crowd and speak very naturally and fully at ease, and able to strongly control and dominate the crowd even when someone gets out of line or attacks him.
One last clarification… the Gene Simmons dot is the Gene Simmons before he pussied out and got monogamously married a few years ago. Today his dot would perhaps be an inch or two to the left, into the lower Alpha 1.0 zone (maybe).
I’ll end this with a blank chart for you to download and play with. It might be fun to place yourself on this chart, and perhaps your friends and family members as well.
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